Ode 1.38
Persicos odi, puer, apparatus,
displicent nexae philyra coronae;
mitte sectari, rosa quo locorum
sera moretur.
simplici myrto nihil adlabores
sedulus, curo: neque te ministrum
dedecet myrtus, neque me sub arta
vite bibentem.

The song I selected is The Way I Are by Timbaland, the reason is for the song's simplistic nature.

The Way I Are, By Timbaland
I ain't got no money
I ain't got no car to take you on a date
I can't even buy you flowers
But together we can be the perfect soul mates
Talk to me girl

Baby, it's alright, now you ain't gotta floss for me
If we go there, you can still touch my love, it's free
We can work without the perks, just you and me
Thug it out 'til we get it right

Baby if you strip, you could get a tip
'Cause I like you just the way you are
I'm about to strip and I want it quick
Can you handle me the way I are?

I don't need the cheese or the car keys
Boy I like you just the way you are
And let me see ya strip, you could get a tip
'Cause I like

I ain't got no Visa
I ain't got no Red American Express
We can't go nowhere exotic
It don't matter 'cause I'm the one that loves you best
Talk to me girl

Baby, it's alright, now you ain't gotta floss for me
If we go there, you can still touch my love, it's free
We can work without the perks, just you and me
Thug it out 'til we get it right

Baby if you strip, you could get a tip
'Cause I like you just the way you are
I'm about to strip and I want it quick
Can you handle me the way I are?

I don't need the cheese or the car keys
Boy I like you just the way you are
And let me see ya strip, you could get a tip
'Cause I like you just the way you are

Baby girl
I don't got a huge ol' house
I rent a room in a house
Listen baby girl
I ain't got a motorboat but I can float ya boat

So listen baby girl
Once you get a dose of D.O.E.
You gon' want some mo'
So listen baby girl
When I make it I want you back
Want you back, yeah


Ode 1.38 is about Horace's distaste for those who are very extravegant. The type of people who wear a lot of gold and expensive things just because they can annoy Horace. So, as I listened to The Way I Are, I decided that based on the lyrics and story of the song, Horace would really like Timbaland's lifestyle. The song immediately starts off with Timbaland admitting he does not have fancy things like a car to take his friend out on a date, or fancy flowers for her. This relates strongly with Horace's phrase "simplici myrto nihil ablabores sedulus, curo" which means " I care that you should not take trouble to the simple myrtle." Myrtle is an extremely simple "flower" that usually considered a gift of thought. This is right up Timbaland's alley as he can not even afford flowers but implies he definitely would if he could, showing some thought and care. Later on, Timbaland mentions his lack of a "Visa" or "Red American express," which are signs of being part of a higher class in society. Those who are rich and enjoy flaunting it get special credit cards that basically portray their wealth to everyone who accepts their card. For example, American Express has come out with a Black Card that is made out of titanium and unlimited spending. So, whenever the user makes a purchase everyone knows they have serious money. Horace would relate this to "nexae philyra coronae" or "Crowns sewn with bast", which are woven with very elaborate flowers. This too is a sign of higher class and is seen by Horace as very snobby, just as he would find the modern parallel of various levels of credit cards as snobby. The next phrase in the song that Horace would appreciate is when Timbaland says "We cant go nowhere exotic." This would be similar to Horace's point of view of Persians, who live to be exotic. He is not a fan, "Persicos odi, puer, apparatus" translated as, "Boy, I hate Persian paraphernalia." This shows that Horace despises Persian culture and completely disagrees with their way of life, much like he would disagree with visiting exotic places like the Caribbean. The last parallel is between Timbaland's phrase "I don't got a huge ol' house" and Horace's "sub arta vite bibentem" or "as I drink under the dense vine." Horace is implying he enjoys reclining and relaxing under simple conditions. Instead of having a huge villa he prefers a simple vine to drink his wine under as it may provide shade. This provides the best way to enjoy the natural beauty surroundings. It is for these parallels that Horace would respect Timbaland based on the lyrics of this particular song. The only thing Horace would not appreciate is Timbaland's below average grammar skills.



Horace 1.11

Tu ne quaesieris (scire nefas), quem mihi, quem tibi
finem di dederint, Leucononoe, nec Babylonios
Temptaris numeros. ut melios, quidquid erit, pati!
seu pluris hiemes, seu tribuit Iuppiter ultimam,

quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare
Tyrrhenum: sapias, vina liques et spatio brevi
spem longam reseces. dum loquimur, fugerit invida
aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.


A song which immediately made me think about this poem was I Hope You Dance by Lee Ann Womack


I hope you never lose your sense of wonder
You get your fill to eat
But always keep that hunger
May you never take one single breath for granted
God forbid love ever leave you empty handed
I hope you still feel small
When you stand by the ocean

Whenever one door closes, I hope one more opens
Promise me you'll give faith a fighting chance

And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
I hope you dance
I hope you dance

I hope you never fear those mountains in the distance
Never settle for the path of least resistance
Living might mean taking chances
But they're worth taking

Lovin' might be a mistake
But it's worth making
Don't let some hell bent heart
Leave you bitter

When you come close to selling out
Reconsider
Give the heavens above
More than just a passing glance

And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
I hope you dance
(Time is a real and constant motion always)
I hope you dance
(Rolling us along)
I hope you dance
(Tell me who)
I hope you dance
(Wants to look back on their youth and wonder)
(Where those years have gone)

I hope you still feel small
When you stand by the ocean

Whenever one door closes, I hope one more opens
Promise me you'll give faith a fighting chance

And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
Dance
I hope you dance
I hope you dance
(Time is a real and constant motion always)
I hope you dance
(Rolling us along)
I hope you dance
(Tell me who)
(Wants to look back on their youth and wonder)
I hope you dance
(Where those years have gone)

(Tell me who)
I hope you dance
(Wants to look back on their youth and wonder)
(Where those years have gone)





Instead of comparing this song and Ode 1.11 by specific phrases in certain lines, the overall messages and method of projecting these messages will be compared. After reading the lyrics it should become overwhelmingly obvious that both the song and Ode 1.11 are giving advice on how to live life. Not only that, but the meanings of the song and poem are similar. At one point Lee Ann Womack says "Living might mean taking chances, but they are worth taking" This line implies that one should live in the moment and take the risks that one would not regret passing up on the next day. In other words, the song I Hope You Dance is advising people to take risks when the decision comes up. This philosophy is much like Horace's view point when he says "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Meaning " Seize the day, trust to the least extent in tomorrow" With this Horace is clearly stating that those who wish to live a meaningful life should do everything they need to do in the present moment. By trust to the least extent in tomorrow he means do not put of things that need to get done now for tomorrow. It is the exact opposite of the saying, "Why do something today when you can put it off until tomorrow?" Furthermore, t he way these two artist portray their messages is extremely similar. Both Horace and Lee Ann Womack use constant imagery to create pictures in the reader or listeners' minds. A few great examples in I Hope You Dance are, "I hope you still feel small when you stand by the ocean" and, "I hope you never fear those mountains in the distance." Both of these quotes create a crystal clear picture in the mind. Also, Lee Ann Womack uses the ocean as an image just like Horace does. Horace uses it to depict an enduring force to show that people should also endure, and Lee Ann Womack uses the ocean to suggest that people should be humble. Although these two uses are not a perfect fit they prove to both be useful advice derived from the same image of a single object. The second image, the mountains, creates a metaphoric goal. The goal for most people is to be successful in life (reach the summit), and Lee Ann Womack is saying that no one should fear trying to reach their dreams. Horace also uses a significant amount of imagery. When Horace says "nec Babylonios temptaris numeros." He is trying to tell the reader not to trust in the stars for only the gods decide their fate. This is a very effective image because stars can be seen from anywhere on the planet. Next, is the phrase "vino liques" or filter the wine. Back then, everyone had to filter their wine in order to drink it. Horace is trying to say focus on the important things in life, filtering the little annoying things. This is similar to Lee Ann Womack's quote saying "Don't let some hell-bent heart leave you bitter" By this she is trying to let the reader know that sulking over a meaningless loss of love is foolish as it will create much bigger problems. Just like Horace implies worrying over the little things will ruin the short life we have. Overall, the song I Hope You Dance and Ode 1.11 supply similar advice. They also depict the advice in similar ways through the use of imagery.













Catullus 116
Saepe tibi studiose, animo venante, requirens
carmina uti possem mittere Battiadae,
qui te lenirem nobis, neu conarere
tela infesta <meum> mittere in usque caput,
hunc video nunc frustra sumptum esse laborem,
Gelli, nec nostras hinc valuisse preces.
contra nos tela ista tua evitabimus acta,
at fixus nostris tu dabis supplicum


The song that reminded me of Catullus 116 was Just Stop by Disturbed.

"Just Stop"

Just stop enough of the limitless critical comments on my life
Just drop the judgment and all of your pseudo-involvement in my life
Step back a moment, and look at the miracle starting in our life
Don't stop the moment, and let the incredible happen knowing that

All that you want is to criticize
Something for nothing
And all that I want is forgiveness one more time

To be the best in the world

Just stop with all of your little deliberate problems with my life
Enough of all the crippling, terrible pain we feel inside
Step back a moment, remember how the miracle started in our life
Take back the torment; I won't be enjoying this moment knowing that

All that you want is to criticize
Something for nothing
And all that I want is forgiveness one more time

I know that
All that we want is to feel inside
Some kind of comfort
And all that we've done
We can hide
We'll be the best in the world

All I ever wanted was to be a real source of compassion
From the moment that we found ourselves drowning in
All I ever wanted was to be a real source of compassion
From the moment that we found ourselves drowning in

All that you want is to criticize
Something for nothing
And all that I want is forgiveness one more time
I know that
All that we want is to feel inside
Some kind of comfort
And all that we've done
We can hide
We'll be the best in the world
We'll be the best in the world
Just stop enough of the limitless critical comments on my life
Just drop the judgment and all of your pseudo-involvement in my life











The reason this song by Disturbed reminded me of Catullus 116 is that both have a sense of resentment to someone. For example, Catullus says "qui te lenirem nobis" meaning so that thereby I may calm you towards me. This indicates that Catullus had once tried to be friends with Gellius before they became rivals. In Just Stop, he artist repeatedly claims he wanted was sense of compassion and forgiveness. So, both Catullus and the artist of Just Stop did not originally have ill-intent for their rival. Instead they wanted and still want peace. Also, when Disturbed says "From the moment that we found ourselves drowning", referring to compassion, it is a close parallel to Catullus' line "hunc video nunc frustra sumptum esse laborem." Saying "I now see that this labor is performed by me in vain." This indicates that both parties believed at one point they were making progress with their rival but later on found that they actually were not. Another similarity between the song and poem is the sense that their enemy is indeed hostile towards them. When Catullus says "conarere tela infesta <meum> mittere in usque caput" meaning "to try to send hostile spears at my head." Catullus does not mean actual spears, but instead means things that could cause him harm. Whether it be his reputation or mental state of mind that is hurt. Either way one gets the sense that Gellius certainly wants to harm Catullus any way possilbe. It is the same in "Just Stop." When Disturbed says "Just stop enough of the limitless critical comments on my life" it is a lot like what Catullus is saying to Gellius. In fact, what Disturbed says may be exactly what Catullus means by hostile spears. Both Catullus and the artist are trying to escape someone who is trying to hurt their feelings and reputation by attacking their flaws. Overall both the poem and song have the same mood and message. In Catullus 116 Catullus is asking Gellius to back off and leave him alone while making sure he states that he attempted to be friends. This is exactly like Just Stop by Disturbed. In this song the artist clearly states all he ever wanted was compassion and forgiveness from the beginning. And, just like Catullus, asks their rival to stop attacking them (throwing spears). Also, both artists are defending themselves from an outside attacker as neither of them started the fight.











Catullus 5
Vivamus mea Lesbia, atque amemus,
rumoresque senum seueriorum
omnes unius aestimemus assis!
soles occidere et redire possunt:
nobis cum semel occidit brevis lux
nox is perpetua una dormienda.
da mi basia mille, deinde centum,
dein mille altera, dein secunda centum,
deinde usque altera mille, deinde centum.
dein, cum milia multa fecereimus,
conturbabimus illa, ne sciamus,
aut ne quis malus inuidere possit
cum tantum sciat esse basiorum









This song by the Veronicas reminds me of poem number 5 by Catullus. The reason is throughout the poem Catullus is asking for Lesbia to give him the love he gives her. One section of lyrics from the song Untouched by The Veronicas is the part of the song that really connected to the poem. It shows passion and border line obsession with their lovers. Both the artist of the song and Catullus want to be together with their loved ones for ever and are willing to do anything to be with them for as long as possible. Both claim they are meant to be and are made to always be there for each other. They say so in the song when she sings "Cause in the end its only you and me and no one else is going to be around to answer all the questions left behind and you and i are meant to be." In the song there is a clear sign of desire, just as there is in this poem. Evidence of this is when Catullus demands thousands of kisses, and in the song it is said crystal clear. "I just can't resist you." Also, one part that really made a connection for me was where in the song they say "Don't even talk about the consequence." or "Don't even think about what's right or wrong or wrong or right." A clear indication of her attempts at trying to make it seem nothing is wrong with being with her. This reminds me of Catullus saying he evaluates the rumors of strict old men to be worth one cent, both are trying to give a sense of assurance that no bad can occur from the desired relationship. At the same time the poem gives clear indication that the relationship is forbidden due to how they have to be together under the shadows of night. Just like in the song where she is trying to avoid thinking about consequences and focus on her lover only.