WIKI JANUARY 8, 2010

ODE 1.5
quis multa gracilis te puer in rosa perfusus liquidis urget odoribus
grato, Pyrrha, sub antro? cui flavam religas comam,
simplex munditiis? heu quotiens fidem mutatosque deos flebit et aspera
nigris aequora ventis emirabitur insolens,
qui nunc te fruitur credulus aurea, qui semper vacuam, semper amabilem
sperat, ne scius aurae fallacis! miseri, quibus
intemptata nites. me tabula sacer
votiva paries indicat uvida suspendisse potenti
vestimenta maris deo.
What slender boy, drenched in liquid perfumes, presses hard upon you on many a rose, Pyrrha, under cover of a pleasing cave? For whom do you bind back your yellow hair,
Simple with elegance? Alas, how often he will lament faithlessness and changed gods, and in surprise he will marvel at the sea, rough with black winds,
he who now enjoys you, believing, you are golden, who hopes that you will be always free, always lovable, he who is ignorant of the treacherous breeze! Wretched are they for whom
you, untried, shine. As for me, the sacred wall with its votive tablet declares that I have hung up my dripping garments to the god who rules over the sea.


You Don't Care Lyrics
all those tears from yesterday
they didn't wash away the pain
so long overdue
those tears were for you
don't say you love me again
just because you see the end
don't act like you care
it's too late to pretend
I never wanted to burn outrageous
but i'm so tired
so hard to walk away
but I cant wish for yesterday

ohh ohhhh
I don't want to lose you
I don't want to lose you
But it's so hard when you don't care anymore
our love was amazing
now it's not worth saving

something tells me you don't care
you don't care anymore

someday soon you'll understand
when no ones there to hold your hand
when loneliness is your only friend
i'm not saying there won't be
another time for you and me
i won't let love die
or let you hurt me again
I never wanted to burn outrageous
but i'm so tired
I don't want to walk away
but I can't wish for yesterday


ohh ohhh
I don't want to lose you
I don't want to lose you
But it's so hard when you don't care anymore
our love was amazing
now it's not worth saving
something tells me you don't care
you don't care anymore

someday when you're all alone
when you've got no hand to hold
you wil think of me

ohh ohhh
i don't want to lose you
don't want to lose you
something tells me you don't care
you don't care

ohh ohhh
I don't want to lose you
I don't want to lose you
But it's so hard when you don't care anymore
our love was amazing
now it's not worth saving
something tells me you don't care
you don't care anymore

ohhh anymore
you don't care anymore

woahhh woahhh you don't care anymore
woahhh you don't care
you don't care anymore




Both Horace and Leona Lewis have experienced similar relationships. Their relationships both seemed as though they were happy but really ended in failure. In line twelve Horace states," miseri quibus intemptata nites". Which means unhappy are they for whom you shine untried. He is reflecting on his relationship with Pyrrha when she appeared innocent and sweet. However, Horace finds out that she not as great as she seems. In fact, she is unloyal to Horace causing the relationship to fall apart. Leona also remembers a happy relationship that ended is disaster. She hints this when she says,"I don't want to walk away, but I can't wish for yesterday". Lewis dreams of her perfect relationship in the past and realizes that dream is no longer present. She also admits, "Love was amazing, now it's not worth saving." This proves she was deeply in love. Leona felt ontop of the world with her love and would have done anything to keep it however, she now feel as though it is not a priority. Both relationships had hope but were unsucessful.

The reasons for the poor relationships are stated later in the poem and song. Horace shares in his last stanza how horrible his relationship with Pyrrha was. He uses the phrases, "uvida vestimenta" and "tabula votiva." Translated as wet clothes and votive tablet. It is know that sailors who survived shipwreck mad a vow on a tablet to Neptune and hung up their wet clothes as a sign of their survival. Horace uses this comparison to prove his relationship was so awful he is lucky he survived it. In the song Leona Lewis tells the listener that her relationship ended because "you [the boyfriend] don't care anymore" Her relationship is destroyed because of the lack of care she is recieving. Horace and Leona Lewis have both faced decietful relationships that appeared happy but twisted into a mess.




December 3,2009
Horace ode 1.11

Tu ne quaesieris, scire nefas, quem mihi, quem tibi
finem di dederint, Leuconoe, nec Babylonios
temptaris numeros. ut melius, quicquid erit, pati,
seu pluris hiemes seu tribuit Iuppiter ultimam,
quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare
Tyrrhenum: sapias, uina liques, et spatio breui
spem longam reseces. dum loquimur, fugerit inuida
aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.
Don't ask (it's forbidden to know) what final fate the gods have
given to me and you, Leuconoe, and don't consult Babylonian
horoscopes. How much better it is to accept whatever shall be,
whether Jupiter has given many more winters or whether this is the
last one, which now breaks the force of the Tuscan sea against the
facing cliffs. Be wise, strain the wine, and trim distant hope within
short limits. While we're talking, grudging time will already
have fled: seize the day, trusting as little as possible in tomorrow.




Live Like We’re Dying
Kris Allen
Sometime we fall down and can’t get back up
We’re hiding behind skin that’s too tough
How come we don’t say I love you enough
Till it’s too late, it’s not too late
Our hearts are hungry for a food that won’t come
We could make a feast from these crumbs
And we’re all staring down the barrel of a gun
So if your life flashed before you, what would you wish you would’ve done
Yeah… gotta start
Looking at the hand of the time we’ve been given here
This is all we got and we gotta start thinkin’ it
Every second counts on a clock that’s tickin
Gotta live like we’re dying

We only got 86 400 seconds in a day
To turn it all around or throw it all away

We gotta tell ‘em that we [[@#|love]] ‘em while we got the chance to say,
Gotta live like we’re dying
(Continued after the jump)
Well if you plane fell out of the skies
Who would you call with your last goodbyes
Should be so careful who we live out of our lives
So when we long for absolution, there’ll be no one on the line
Yeah… we gotta start lookin’ at the hand of the time we’ve been given here
This all we got and we gotta start thinkin it
Every second count on a clock that’s tickin
Gotta live like we’re dying
We only got 86 400 seconds in a day
to turn it all around or throw it all away
We gotta tell ‘em that we love ‘em while we got the chance to say,
Gotta live like we’re dying
Like we’re dying oh…
Like we’re dying
Like we’re dying oh…
Like we’re dying
We only got 86 400 seconds in a day
to turn it all around or throw it all away
We gotta tell ‘em that we love ‘em while we got the chance to say,
Gotta live like we’re dying
You never know a good thing until it’s gone
you never see a crash until its head on
All these people right when we’re dead wrong,
You never know a good thing till it’s gone
Yeah… we gotta start lookin’ at the hand of the time we’ve been given here
this all we got and we gotta start thinkin it
Every second count on a clock that’s tickin
Gotta live like we’re dying
We only got 86 400 seconds in a day
to turn it all around or throw it all away
We gotta tell ‘em that we love ‘em while we got the chance to say,
Gotta live like we’re dying
Like we’re dying oh…
Like we’re dying
Like we’re dying oh…
Like we’re dying
We only got 86 400 seconds in a day
to turn it all around or throw it all away
We gotta tell ‘em that we love ‘em while we got the chance to say,
Gotta live like we’re dying

Horaces's ode 1.11 and Kris Allen's "Live like we're dying" both share a similar philosophy. In Ode 1.11 horace expresses the importance of valueing time. In line 7 horace writes, "dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas". Translated as while we speak, hateful age wil have fled. Horace believes time is short and shall not be waisted. Time will always be fleeing from us and will be gone before we know it. Similarly in Kris Allens songs he says, "Every second counts on a clock that's tickin... we only got 86,400 seconds in a day". These lines represent how precious time really is. Both Horace and Kris Allen share the same view on time. In their opinions, time should be spent wisely because it will always be ticking away. Most people do not realize how fast time flies, which is why these two artists have addressed this problem. In the last line Horace says," carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero". This same idea is expressed in the song where Allens sings, "Gotta live like we're dying". Both men feel it is necessary to live as if there is no tomorrow. They encourage people to "sieze the day" because time is always running out. Both Horace and Kris Allen advise people to live this way so that they can live life to the fullest. By doing so, people will be satisfied with their lives and have no regrets when their time runs out.

peam 72:
Dicebas quondam solum te nosse Catullum,
Lesbia, nec prae me velle tenere Iouem.
dilexi tum te non tantum ut vulgus amicam,
sed pater ut gnatos diligit et generos.
nunc te cognovi: quare etsi impensius uror,
multo mi tamen es vilior et levior.
qui potis est, inquis? quod amantem iniuria talis
cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus.

english:
You once said that you knew only Catullus,
Lesbia, and you would not consider Jove before me.
I loved you then not like the mob does a harlot,
but as a father loves his sons and sons-in-law.
Now I know you: Wherefore, though I burn more fiercely,
still you are much less substantial and insignificant.
How is this so, you ask? Because such an injury drives a lover
to love more oftern, but to be less friendly.


"Erase and Rewind" lyrics:
Under you, under me
You and I are the same
This skin and bones hides our souls
We're suspended in between

It's over you, it's over me
We couldn't reach it if we tried
Yet you try every time

Why did you say, that?
Why don't you stay, and
Let me remind you
Let me remind you

Cuz I didn't see this coming
No I did not
I thought that I knew you
I guess I was wrong

You seemed so strange
Or did I lose you today
Tell me there's time
To erase and rewind

I won't look back to our past
Cause if I do then it might rain
It's funny how all we have now
Are some memories like loose change


Why did you say, that?
Why don't you stay, and
Let me remind you
Let me remind you

That I didn't see this coming
No I did not
I thought that I knew you
I guess I was wrong
You seemed so strange
Or did I lose you today
Tell me there's time
To erase and rewind

If you meant what you said well then fine
And if you meant what you said well then goodbye

I want to remind you
That I still love you


I didn't see this coming
No I did not
I thought that I knew you
I guess I was wrong
You seemed so strange
Or did I lose you today
Please tell me there's time
Tell me there's time
To erase and rewind






I compared poem 72 to Philip Larue's song "Erase and Rewind". In this poem Catullus feels betrayed by Lesbia. When he says "nunc te cognovi," which means now I know you, it reminds of this song when Philip Larue says "I thought that I knew you I guess I was wrong." Both Catullus and Larue thought they knew who their lover was until they were rudely awakened. They both feel as though their girlfriend let them down and betrayed them. In Larue's case the viewer can infer that when he says,"Why did you say that?" his love has upset him by saying unloving comments toward him. In Catullus's case Lesbia has betrayed him by loving another man. Like the song Catullus "didn't see this coming." In the song Philip Larue says, "I wont look back to our past cause if i do then it might rain." Thinking about the past is a sensitive subject for the singer because it reminds him of what he has lost. He is sad that his memories are like loose change and barely there which is why remebering makes it rain. Catullus has a similar feeling. It is painful for him to remeber his love with Lesbia because it ment so much to him while it lasted. However after Larue's break-up he says," I want to remind you that I still love you." Here he is reflecting on a great love that he will never be able to forget. Although he was heartbroken his girl will always have a spot in his heart. Catullus feels the same way. When Catullus says,"I loved you then not only as a common girlfriend but as a father loves his sons and sons in law," he is remebering the happiness he had with Lesbia. A love as powerful as Catullus and Lesbia's will never be forgotten, just like Phillip Larue and his girlfriend. For both men, even though their hearts were shattered it is not easy to stop loving.